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 Post subject: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Jul-09 1:10 am 

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What generals do you hate to see in a 1v1 game?

For me, there are 2 I just refuse to play against: Azami and Azusa.

Honorable mentions go to Vendilion Clique and Zur.


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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Jul-09 8:06 am 
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Edric. I think he's pretty much the only one I truly loathe.

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Jul-09 9:18 am 
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Jhoira.
Any of the Praetors
Good Braids
Evil Braids (oh wait, she's banned :D )
(until recently, when he got banned too) Griselbrand

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Jul-09 7:15 pm 

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TY for reminding me I have to update my Braids deck

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Jul-11 7:06 am 
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Kaalia of the Vast


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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Jul-11 7:57 am 
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Momir Vig, Simic Visionary

There are (or have been) 3 Momir players in total in the playgroups I play with. Every each one of them uses him to easily access infinite comboes.

Kaalia of the Vast

It's just the fact that she needs to be killed on sight unless we want our lands to be nuked. LD is not necessarily a part of a Kaalia deck but it does power them up enough to warrant slots even in groups in which mass LD is frowned upon (such as ours).

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV

Once again, I suppose I hate the decks I've seen him leading more than him. That having been said, he's a true griefer himself.

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Sep-18 4:03 pm 

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You know what is funny?

My wife plays

Kaalia of the Vast

and one of the generals I play is:

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV

I generally don't play GAAIV unless I want to win 1v1 though. It is not fun for the opponent to sit through a turn 2 GAAIV followed by a turn 3 Drogskol Reaver, in a 1v1 game.


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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Sep-19 3:47 am 

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Zur. Just waaaaay too identical. Each game the same moves.


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AgePosted: 2012-Oct-05 8:01 am 
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green slime wrote:
Zur. Just waaaaay too identical. Each game the same moves.


Danny Sit (pronounced See-tee) over here has a VERY cool Zur deck he wins some EDH tournaments with. It has the usual jank like Diplomatic Immunity and so on, but also packs Nevermore, Propaganda, Copy Enchantment, Ghostly Prison, Icy Prison and a smart assortment of Countespells, Sunder/Armageddon and such. He's also a fantastic guy generally so while he caves your face in it feels great!

As for OP:

Maelstrom Wanderer...just too ridiculous.
Azusa, too OP as a General.
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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Oct-05 10:44 am 

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CrazyPierre wrote:
Azusa, too OP as a General.

From a guy that runs Rayne...you think Azusa is OP?

What sort of bad troll are you? Go back to troll school damnit!


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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Oct-10 9:53 pm 

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Krond the Dawn-Clad

We thought he'd be like a less irritating Uril, the Miststalker in my play group, but he still sucks. At least Uril lets me keep my stuff. If you actually let him get enchanted by just about anything his exile trigger makes all the players twitch for their spot removal. To avoid having your best thing shot down you have to kill him before he gets to attack which makes you feel like the enemy of fun. No one wins.

Ghave, Guru of Spores

I'm sick of Ghave combo lists. Nearly every guy I talk to about commander knows someone with a Ghave list with at least some of the usual combo suspects. I can't relax with a Ghave player at the table, if you don't watch 'em the chance of losing to random Grave Pact/Aura Shards/Dark Mike bs increases with every passing turn.

Isn't part of being Johnny, Combo Player about individualism? Ghave is not special or unique anymore. Go break something niche and cool instead. I'm saying this and I play Kaalia for God's sake.

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Dec-11 7:10 pm 
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The rare time I do a duel or competitive play, of sorts, I used to run Sigarda, Host of Herons. Good luck finding removal for her in time that she can easily end up avoiding with some proper card choices. Heck, even I came to despise her and the strat just felt so boring and linear and the faces I would get from other players.


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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Dec-12 2:07 am 
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Ghave and Riku are both really annoying.

And I think Elesh Norn and Jin-Gitaxias players should be killed before they get enough mana to cast their generals, because even if the decks aren't otherwise broken, I can't stand having those guys on the field. Vorinclex too, actually.

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2012-Dec-18 4:13 am 
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I do not dislike any generals right away, since I have seen decks built around many legends which are generally hated by most of the community that were really cool and fun. Although there are a few generals who have a bad reputation for a reason. Joira is probably the only one, where most decks will probably turn out being the same deck.


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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2013-Jan-07 1:00 pm 

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Omnath gets old for me, but he is popular at my LGS.

Kaalia and Jhoira aren't inherently annoying, but when they are built competitively to win by paralyzing everyone else with landkill, it's a different and agonizing story. My buddy's Jhoira deck is still strong, but doesn't go for Obliterate or any of that craziness.

I haven't seen him as a general much, but I hate, hate, hate Vorinclex. I played him myself once, (Not as a general) watched everyone at the table's eyes glaze over, and haven't played him since.

I suppose I don't auto-hate most generals, but if you are playing one of the mono-blue "combo" generals (Azami, Teferi, Arcum,) I will be watching you very closely for shenanigans. My hate is reserved for those who drop Armageddons, Obliterates, and Knowledge Pool with Teferi out.


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