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start by drawing Desert

then try to get past his wall of counterspells/tricks

that's what he means by "very little removal"


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Can you honestly say that you would play Desert in your deck? Yeah, I don't think so. You just got lawyered. The subset of removal that can deal with it at his point is blue bounce (Echoing Truth, Boomerang), red burn (I'm not listing the list here), black kill (Dark Banishing, Terror, Devour in Shadow, Snuff Out, etc.; of which, most are terrible except for an even smaller subset), and Swords to Plowshares. There is no other card that you could play that you would actually put into your deck, and if you try to mulligan down to an answer to the general, you might just lose from card advantage late game.

Not unsolvable, but the idea that you can deal with it is merely an illusion.

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Counterspell?

Also, in 1v1, you should be playing plenty of cheap efficient answers. All players should be. If you're relying solely on your general to win you the game, it will fail sometimes.

Finally, blue control decks, despite popular belief, can't counter everything.

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With the off-chance that you play against another counterspell control deck, you can simply wait until you have the extra 2 mana for the counterspell. I didn't say that Vendilion Clique would be the only threat. I would still play a few threats. Like I said, I would play Trinket Mage. However, the secondary win condition would probably be just Tinker for Darksteel Colossus. I doubt this will ever be necessary, as Vendilion Clique beatdown is just so effective.

In terms of your cheap removal answer, yes, I know that exists, obviously. Way to point out the obvious. However, like I said, it's a very small subset of spells. Your expected turn that you get your answer is on average much longer than turn 3. My Vendilion Clique is there every time. Can you honestly say that you will have the answer every time? Yeah, I didn't think so. Lawyered. Also, say you do kill it once. I will simply wait the two turns for my land drops, and it starts all over again.

If you don't understand this concept, just look at Randy Buehler's counterspell control deck from many years ago. His only win conditions were Stalking Stones and Rainbow Efreet. It's similar to that.

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If built correctly and with some money Erayo can go off turn 2 or 3 with counters backing it and with the capability to play an enchantment that makes you not able to cast more then one spell a turn...seems banworthy, but hey the guy that was playing me thought it was a good time.


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