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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2014-Oct-13 8:08 pm 

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I play karador spirit (+arcane) tribal, mostly Kamigawa stuff (Bounteous Kirin is full of win), so I don't really seem to fit in the karador-is-overpowered league of players.

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2014-Oct-14 12:54 am 
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It all depends on the Karador build. As I have a Karador deck myself, I know what I'm speaking about. A Karador with Survival, Pod, Entomb, Fauna Shaman, etc. plays too similar each game - boring to play and boring to play against. You fetch the same stuff every game, chain the same cards each time, so why play 100 singleton at all?

Karador is imho best in grindy rock strategies which go hand in hand with reanimator shenanigans, therefore my build is focused on that. It features some of the usual suspects, along with quite a few pet cards, but no tutors other than a KotR toolbox.

If you choose to ban something, don't ban the combo pieces, ban the enablers (Pod, Survival).

//Commander
1 Karador, Ghost Chieftain

//Lands
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Temple Garden
6 Forest
3 Swamp
4 Plains
1 Isolated Chapel
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Command Tower
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Maze of Ith
1 Woodland Cemetery
1 Windswept Heath
1 Cabal Pit
1 Marsh Flats
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Grim Backwoods
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Krosan Verge
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Dryad Arbor

//Creatures
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Reveillark
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Shadowborn Demon
1 Necrotic Sliver
1 Eternal Witness
1 Glissa, the Traitor
1 Silverchase Fox
1 Stinkweed Imp
1 Restoration Angel
1 Sun Titan
1 Duplicant
1 Acidic Slime
1 Bone Shredder
1 Disciple of Bolas
1 Sepulchral Primordial
1 Hermit Druid
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Wood Elves
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Big Game Hunter
1 Harvester of Souls
1 Ghoultree
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Kessig Cagebreakers
1 Satyr Wayfinder
1 Ashen Rider
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Karmic Guide
1 Archon of Justice
1 Burnished Hart
1 Doomgape
1 Vizkopa Guildmage
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Athreos, God of Passage
1 Karametra, God of Harvests
1 Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed
1 Splinterfright
1 Mindslicer

//Spells
1 Greater Good
1 Codex Shredder
1 Rout
1 Witchbane Orb
1 Living Death
1 Decree of Pain
1 Skullclamp
1 Life from the Loam
1 Grisly Salvage
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sever the Bloodline
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Oblation
1 Commune with the Gods
1 Vraska the Unseen
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Praetor's Counsel
1 Animate Dead
1 Death Cloud

Important note: Death Cloud and Mindslicer are the latest 2 additions. As my meta becomes more control heavy at the moment, I thought I fight it with discard. We'll see how long these stay in.


asi wrote:
I play karador spirit (+arcane) tribal, mostly Kamigawa stuff (Bounteous Kirin is full of win), so I don't really seem to fit in the karador-is-overpowered league of players.

Would you mind sharing your list? Karador super secret tech is always useful to look at. :)

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Erebos, God of the Dead - RTFCs
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Karador, Ghost Chieftain - Reanimator Rock
Karn, Silver Golem - No Eldrazi
Nin, the Pain Artist - Steal/Control
Rith, the Awakener - Doomsday combo, of course
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed - AC
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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2014-Oct-14 5:14 am 
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asi wrote:
I play karador spirit (+arcane) tribal, mostly Kamigawa stuff (Bounteous Kirin is full of win), so I don't really seem to fit in the karador-is-overpowered league of players.


We were all building tribal decks here and I went with the exact same idea. It's hella fun without being broken.


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AgePosted: 2015-Jul-13 3:08 pm 

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Prossh, because my decks are generally made for the longer game, and he can go infinite by the time I'm done warming up and can do stuff. Prossh decks that don't run Food Chain are fun though.

Mayael, because the one guy in our group who plays it runs nothing but degenerate cards and expensive ramp and original duals. Turn 4 Avacyn. Turn 5 Ulamog. Turn 6 Prophet. Turn 7 Kozilek, Iona, Vorinclex (popped during other player's turns) and out comes Craterhoof. T&N for Archetype of Endurance and Siege Behemoth. Turn 8 cast Genesis Wave for 15 off Vorinclex's ability. GG.

Rafiq, because he's about the fastest killer in the game in a Voltron deck IMO. Swinging 8 commander on turn 3 sucks. I can beat this with my mono-blue deck if I start with a counterspell for his first cast, but the rest of my decks all chump to him. If he hits the board it's basically game unless you dumb-luck draw good removal. And then when he gets recast you're about guaranteed he'll have boots/inquisitor's flail/whispersilk/Flameshrieker/Jitte waiting for him.


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AgePosted: 2016-Jul-09 12:53 pm 
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KAAAAAAALIAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

But yeah I despise her as a commander, Every freaking Deck with her as a commander is designed to get her out turn 2 and it earns the scorn of not only myself but others as well. I wish to do unspeakable things to her, namely Image and express my Image on her Image with my Image then lash her Image with my Image. I really bleeding hate her....

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2016-Jul-11 12:33 pm 

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You want to express your visions of brutality on her temple of mystery? Is this a genitals joke?


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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2016-Jul-11 1:15 pm 

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Sovarius wrote:
You want to express your visions of brutality on her temple of mystery? Is this a genitals joke?


...with his Spear of Heliod.

I'd say so. Questionable taste, but that's the Internet for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Generals you absolutely despise
AgePosted: 2017-Mar-20 3:29 am 
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For a long time, I rocked a hug variant of Grand Arbiter Augustin IV that got people frequently salty. I just kindof liked getting to police without giving any one player a huge advantage, and getting to blow down the person who threatens to win the game first.

I see red whenever a player shows Nekusar, because it really perverts the idea of hugging/resource flooding. Instead of policing and establishing fair-ish win conditions, Nekusar tends to revolve around simultaneous combo kils and saying a whole lot of no.

I also find Oloro, Ageless Ascetic to be an absolutely tasteless general. Maybe I've just had bad experiences, but Oloro decks tend to try to be a sick combination of goodstuff and "let's not play the game." Also, I have yet to see someone playing Oloro, play Rhystic Study without being an absolute turd about it (using the card ineffectively in the process.) So beating on an Oloro deck like it owes me money tends to give me inordinate EDH joy (though I'm less likely to try to SMorc an Oloro player for no reason than a Nekusar pilot.)

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AgePosted: 2017-May-15 1:13 pm 

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Any commander that requires shuffling every turn

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