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 Post subject: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-04 5:24 am 

Joined: 2008-Aug-08 6:34 am
Age: Elder Dragon
Location: Rouen, France
I've been mulling over an idea since the announcement of FTV: Flip (really?!) and I wonder what people would put into FTV: Commander?

I keep starting lists and discarding cards and honestly I have no idea of what my 15 would entail.

What would your lists be?

Rules:
Reserved list excluded & nothing that has already appeared in a FTV product, otherwise open bar!

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Sydri's random pile of cards with "Artifact" on them
Scarab God Zombie Horde
Atraxa Superfriends
Yidris Eldrazi (4C Devoid)
Sissay Angel Oath
Wort's Goblin Conspiracy
Gonti's Mega-Bouncy Castle


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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-04 9:41 am 
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Age: Elder Dragon
The "Well, Duh" pick:
Command Tower

The "Auto-include" picks:
Deadeye Navigator
Tooth and Nail

The "Probably But Oh God I Hope Not" picks
Genesis Wave
Derevi

The "Has Been In An FTV But Here It Is Again Because We Love It So" pick
Sol Ring

(Will edit and add more cards later if inspiration strikes)

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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-04 5:45 pm 

Joined: 2009-Apr-21 3:38 pm
Age: Elder Dragon
Location: Palm Springs Area, CA
Kokusho for being banned then unbanned, but this time with alternate art to justify using it again.

Also random commander not yet foil, like Basandra or Nin

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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-04 9:51 pm 
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I would hope it was obscure cards that are strong or fun in EDH, but not well known or widely used. Unfortunately, it would likely be "good stuff" fodder. E.g.:

Preferred:
Blaze of Glory - reserved...really?
Mana Cache
Cream of the Crop
Baton of Morale - banding on defense - so underrated


Expected:
Viperion wrote:
The "Auto-include" picks:
Deadeye Navigator
Tooth and Nail

The "Probably But Oh God I Hope Not" picks
Genesis Wave
Derevi



Resources

Akroma, Angel of Fury FTV: Angels
Akroma, Angel of Wrath FTV: Angels
Archangel of Strife FTV: Angels
Aurelia, the Warleader FTV: Angels
Avacyn, Angel of Hope FTV: Angels
Baneslayer Angel FTV: Angels
Entreat the Angels FTV: Angels
Exalted Angel FTV: Angels
Iona, Shield of Emeria FTV: Angels
Iridescent Angel FTV: Angels
Jenara, Asura of War FTV: Angels
Lightning Angel FTV: Angels
Platinum Angel FTV: Angels
Serra Angel FTV: Angels
Tariel, Reckoner of Souls FTV: Angels

Armageddon FTV: Annihilation
Burning of Xinye FTV: Annihilation
Cataclysm FTV: Annihilation
Child of Alara FTV: Annihilation
Decree of Annihilation FTV: Annihilation
Firespout FTV: Annihilation
Fracturing Gust FTV: Annihilation
Living Death FTV: Annihilation
Martial Coup FTV: Annihilation
Rolling Earthquake FTV: Annihilation
Smokestack FTV: Annihilation
Terminus FTV: Annihilation
Upheaval FTV: Annihilation
Virtue's Ruin FTV: Annihilation
Wrath of God FTV: Annihilation

Bladewing the Risen FTV: Dragons
Bogardan Hellkite FTV: Dragons
Draco FTV: Dragons
Dragon Whelp FTV: Dragons
Dragonstorm FTV: Dragons
Ebon Dragon FTV: Dragons
Form of the Dragon FTV: Dragons
Hellkite Overlord FTV: Dragons
Kokusho, the Evening Star FTV: Dragons
Nicol Bolas FTV: Dragons
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind FTV: Dragons
Rith, the Awakener FTV: Dragons
Shivan Dragon FTV: Dragons
Thunder Dragon FTV: Dragons
Two-Headed Dragon FTV: Dragons

Balance FTV: Exiled
Berserk FTV: Exiled
Channel FTV: Exiled
Gifts Ungiven FTV: Exiled
Goblin Lackey FTV: Exiled
Kird Ape FTV: Exiled
Lotus Petal FTV: Exiled
Mystical Tutor FTV: Exiled
Necropotence FTV: Exiled
Sensei's Divining Top FTV: Exiled
Serendib Efreet FTV: Exiled
Skullclamp FTV: Exiled
Strip Mine FTV: Exiled
Tinker FTV: Exiled
Trinisphere FTV: Exiled

Cao Cao, Lord of Wei FTV: Legends
Captain Sisay FTV: Legends
Doran, the Siege Tower FTV: Legends
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker FTV: Legends
Kresh the Bloodbraided FTV: Legends
Mikaeus, the Lunarch FTV: Legends
Omnath, Locus of Mana FTV: Legends
Oona, Queen of the Fae FTV: Legends
Progenitus FTV: Legends
Rafiq of the Many FTV: Legends
Sharuum the Hegemon FTV: Legends
Sun Quan, Lord of Wu FTV: Legends
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir FTV: Legends
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre FTV: Legends
Visara the Dreadful FTV: Legends

Beseech the Queen FTV: Lore
Cabal Ritual FTV: Lore
Conflux FTV: Lore
Dark Depths FTV: lore
Glissa, the Traitor FTV: Lore
Helvault FTV: Lore
Memnarch FTV: lore
Mind's Desire FTV: Lore
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary FTV: Lore
Near-Death Experience FTV: lore
Obliterate FTV: Lore
Phyrexian Processor FTV: Lore
Tolaria West FTV: Lore
Umezawa's Jitte FTV: Lore
Unmask FTV: Lore

Ancient Tomb FTV: Realms
Boseiju, Who Shelters All FTV: Realms
Cephalid Coliseum FTV: Realms
Desert FTV: Realms
Dryad Arbor FTV: Realms
Forbidden Orchard FTV: Realms
Glacial Chasm FTV: Realms
Grove of the Burnwillows FTV: Realms
High Market FTV: Realms
Maze of Ith FTV: Realms
Murmuring Bosk FTV: Realms
Shivan Gorge FTV: Realms
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth FTV: Realms
Vesuva FTV: Realms
Windbrisk Heights FTV: Realms

Aether Vial FTV: Relics
Black Vise FTV: Relics
Isochron Scepter FTV: Relics
Ivory Tower FTV: Relics
Jester's Cap FTV: Relics
Karn, Silver Golem FTV: Relics
Masticore FTV: Relics
Memory Jar FTV: Relics
Mirari FTV: Relics
Mox Diamond FTV: Relics
Nevinyrral's Disk FTV: Relics
Sol Ring FTV: Relics
Sundering Titan FTV: Relics
Sword of Body and Mind FTV: Relics
Zuran Orb FTV: Relics

Akroma's Vengeance FTV: Twenty
Chainer's Edict FTV: Twenty
Chameleon Colossus FTV: Twenty
Char FTV: Twenty
Cruel Ultimatum FTV: Twenty
Dark Ritual FTV: Twenty
Fact or Fiction FTV: Twenty
Fyndhorn Elves FTV: Twenty
Gilded Lotus FTV: Twenty
Green Sun's Zenith FTV: Twenty
Hymn to Tourach FTV: Twenty
Impulse FTV: Twenty
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni FTV: Twenty
Jace, the Mind Sculptor FTV: Twenty
Kessig Wolf Run FTV: Twenty
Swords to Plowshares FTV: Twenty
Tangle Wire FTV: Twenty
Thran Dynamo FTV: Twenty
Venser, Shaper Savant FTV: Twenty
Wall of Blossoms FTV: Twenty

Aether Vial FTV: Relics
Akroma, Angel of Fury FTV: Angels
Akroma, Angel of Wrath FTV: Angels
Akroma's Vengeance FTV: Twenty
Ancient Tomb FTV: Realms
Archangel of Strife FTV: Angels
Armageddon FTV: Annihilation
Aurelia, the Warleader FTV: Angels
Avacyn, Angel of Hope FTV: Angels
Balance FTV: Exiled
Baneslayer Angel FTV: Angels
Berserk FTV: Exiled
Beseech the Queen FTV: Lore
Black Vise FTV: Relics
Bladewing the Risen FTV: Dragons
Bogardan Hellkite FTV: Dragons
Boseiju, Who Shelters All FTV: Realms
Burning of Xinye FTV: Annihilation
Cabal Ritual FTV: Lore
Cao Cao, Lord of Wei FTV: Legends
Captain Sisay FTV: Legends
Cataclysm FTV: Annihilation
Cephalid Coliseum FTV: Realms
Chainer's Edict FTV: Twenty
Chameleon Colossus FTV: Twenty
Channel FTV: Exiled
Char FTV: Twenty
Child of Alara FTV: Annihilation
Conflux FTV: Lore
Cruel Ultimatum FTV: Twenty
Dark Depths FTV: lore
Dark Ritual FTV: Twenty
Decree of Annihilation FTV: Annihilation
Desert FTV: Realms
Doran, the Siege Tower FTV: Legends
Draco FTV: Dragons
Dragon Whelp FTV: Dragons
Dragonstorm FTV: Dragons
Dryad Arbor FTV: Realms
Ebon Dragon FTV: Dragons
Entreat the Angels FTV: Angels
Exalted Angel FTV: Angels
Fact or Fiction FTV: Twenty
Firespout FTV: Annihilation
Forbidden Orchard FTV: Realms
Form of the Dragon FTV: Dragons
Fracturing Gust FTV: Annihilation
Fyndhorn Elves FTV: Twenty
Gifts Ungiven FTV: Exiled
Gilded Lotus FTV: Twenty
Glacial Chasm FTV: Realms
Glissa, the Traitor FTV: Lore
Goblin Lackey FTV: Exiled
Green Sun's Zenith FTV: Twenty
Grove of the Burnwillows FTV: Realms
Hellkite Overlord FTV: Dragons
Helvault FTV: Lore
High Market FTV: Realms
Hymn to Tourach FTV: Twenty
Impulse FTV: Twenty
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni FTV: Twenty
Iona, Shield of Emeria FTV: Angels
Iridescent Angel FTV: Angels
Isochron Scepter FTV: Relics
Ivory Tower FTV: Relics
Jace, the Mind Sculptor FTV: Twenty
Jenara, Asura of War FTV: Angels
Jester's Cap FTV: Relics
Karn, Silver Golem FTV: Relics
Kessig Wolf Run FTV: Twenty
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker FTV: Legends
Kird Ape FTV: Exiled
Kokusho, the Evening Star FTV: Dragons
Kresh the Bloodbraided FTV: Legends
Lightning Angel FTV: Angels
Living Death FTV: Annihilation
Lotus Petal FTV: Exiled
Martial Coup FTV: Annihilation
Masticore FTV: Relics
Maze of Ith FTV: Realms
Memnarch FTV: lore
Memory Jar FTV: Relics
Mikaeus, the Lunarch FTV: Legends
Mind's Desire FTV: Lore
Mirari FTV: Relics
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary FTV: Lore
Mox Diamond FTV: Relics
Murmuring Bosk FTV: Realms
Mystical Tutor FTV: Exiled
Near-Death Experience FTV: lore
Necropotence FTV: Exiled
Nevinyrral's Disk FTV: Relics
Nicol Bolas FTV: Dragons
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind FTV: Dragons
Obliterate FTV: Lore
Omnath, Locus of Mana FTV: Legends
Oona, Queen of the Fae FTV: Legends
Phyrexian Processor FTV: Lore
Platinum Angel FTV: Angels
Progenitus FTV: Legends
Rafiq of the Many FTV: Legends
Rith, the Awakener FTV: Dragons
Rolling Earthquake FTV: Annihilation
Sensei's Divining Top FTV: Exiled
Serendib Efreet FTV: Exiled
Serra Angel FTV: Angels
Sharuum the Hegemon FTV: Legends
Shivan Dragon FTV: Dragons
Shivan Gorge FTV: Realms
Skullclamp FTV: Exiled
Smokestack FTV: Annihilation
Sol Ring FTV: Relics
Strip Mine FTV: Exiled
Sun Quan, Lord of Wu FTV: Legends
Sundering Titan FTV: Relics
Sword of Body and Mind FTV: Relics
Swords to Plowshares FTV: Twenty
Tangle Wire FTV: Twenty
Tariel, Reckoner of Souls FTV: Angels
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir FTV: Legends
Terminus FTV: Annihilation
Thran Dynamo FTV: Twenty
Thunder Dragon FTV: Dragons
Tinker FTV: Exiled
Tolaria West FTV: Lore
Trinisphere FTV: Exiled
Two-Headed Dragon FTV: Dragons
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre FTV: Legends
Umezawa's Jitte FTV: Lore
Unmask FTV: Lore
Upheaval FTV: Annihilation
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth FTV: Realms
Venser, Shaper Savant FTV: Twenty
Vesuva FTV: Realms
Virtue's Ruin FTV: Annihilation
Visara the Dreadful FTV: Legends
Wall of Blossoms FTV: Twenty
Windbrisk Heights FTV: Realms
Wrath of God FTV: Annihilation
Zuran Orb FTV: Relics


Limited Editions
Ancestral Recall
Badlands
Bayou
Black Lotus
Blaze of Glory
Braingeyser
Chaos Orb
Contract from Below
Copy Artifact
Cyclopean Tomb
Darkpact
Demonic Attorney
Demonic Hordes
Farmstead
Fastbond
Forcefield
Fork
Gauntlet of Might
Granite Gargoyle
Illusionary Mask
Kudzu
Lich
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Natural Selection
Plateau (Brudi)
Plateau (Tucker)
Raging River
Roc of Kher Ridges
Rock Hydra
Savannah
Scrubland
Sedge Troll
Taiga
Time Vault
Time Walk
Timetwister
Tropical Island
Tundra
Two-Headed Giant of Foriys
Underground Sea
Vesuvan Doppelganger
Veteran Bodyguard
Volcanic Island
Wheel of Fortune
Word of Command

Arabian Nights
Ali from Cairo
Bazaar of Baghdad
City in a Bottle
Diamond Valley
Drop of Honey
Elephant Graveyard
Guardian Beast
Ifh-Biff Efreet
Island of Wak-Wak
Jihad
Juzam Djinn
Khabal Ghoul
King Suleiman
Library of Alexandria
Merchant Ship
Old Man of the Sea
Pyramids
Ring of Ma'ruf
Sandals of Abdallah
Serendib Djinn
Shahrazad
Singing Tree

Antiquities
Argivian Archaeologist
Candelabra of Tawnos
Citanul Druid
Damping Field
Gaea's Avenger
Gate to Phyrexia
Golgothian Sylex
Haunting Wind
Martyrs of Korlis
Mightstone
Mishra's Workshop
Power Artifact
Powerleech
Su-Chi
Tawnos's Coffin
Transmute Artifact
Urza's Miter
Weakstone

Legends
The Abyss
Acid Rain
Adun Oakenshield
Al-abara's Carpet
Alchor's Tomb
All Hallow's Eve
Angus Mackenzie
Bartel Runeaxe
Boris Devilboon
Caverns of Despair
Chains of Mephistopheles
Cleanse
Disharmony
Divine Intervention
Elder Spawn
Eureka
Falling Star
Field of Dreams
Firestorm Phoenix
Forethought Amulet
Gosta Dirk
Gravity Sphere
Gwendlyn Di Corci
Halfdane
Hazezon Tamar
Hellfire
Imprison
In the Eye of Chaos
Infinite Authority
Invoke Prejudice
Jacques le Vert
Jovial Evil
Knowledge Vault
Kobold Overlord
Lady Caleria
Lady Evangela
Land Equilibrium
Life Matrix
Lifeblood
Living Plane
Livonya Silone
Mana Matrix
Master of the Hunt
Mirror Universe
Moat
Mold Demon
Nether Void
North Star
Nova Pentacle
Pixie Queen
Planar Gate
Quarum Trench Gnomes
Ragnar
Ramses Overdark
Rapid Fire
Rasputin Dreamweaver
Reverberation
Ring of Immortals
Rohgahh of Kher Keep
Spinal Villain
Spiritual Sanctuary
Storm World
Sword of the Ages
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Telekinesis
Tetsuo Umezawa
Thunder Spirit
Tuknir Deathlock
Typhoon
Ur-Drago
Willow Satyr
Wood Elemental

The Dark
City of Shadows
Cleansing
Eternal Flame
Exorcist
Frankenstein's Monster
Goblin Wizard
Grave Robbers
Hidden Path
Knights of Thorn
Lurker
Mana Vortex
Martyr's Cry
Nameless Race
Niall Silvain
Preacher
Psychic Allergy
Scarwood Bandits
Season of the Witch
Sorrow's Path
Stone Calendar
Tracker
Worms of the Earth
Wormwood Treefolk

Fallen Empires
Aeolipile
Balm of Restoration
Conch Horn
Delif's Cube
Draconian Cylix
Dwarven Armorer
Ebon Praetor
Elven Lyre
Elvish Farmer
Fungal Bloom
Goblin Flotilla
Hand of Justice
Homarid Shaman
Icatian Lieutenant
Icatian Skirmishers
Implements of Sacrifice
Rainbow Vale
Ring of Renewal
River Merfolk
Spirit Shield
Thelon's Curse
Thelonite Monk
Thrull Champion
Tourach's Gate
Vodalian Knights
Vodalian War Machine
Zelyon Sword

Ice Age
Aegis of the Meek
Altar of Bone
Amulet of Quoz
Balduvian Hydra
Blizzard
Brand of Ill Omen
Call to Arms
Chromatic Armor
Earthlink
Energy Storm
Flow of Maggots
Formation
Fyndhorn Pollen
General Jarkeld
Glacial Crevasses
Gravebind
Halls of Mist
Hot Springs
Ice Cauldron
Illusionary Presence
Illusions of Grandeur
Infernal Denizen
Jester's Mask
Kjeldoran Knight
Kjeldoran Phalanx
Land Cap
Lava Tubes
Lightning Blow
Marton Stromgald
Mercenaries
Mesmeric Trance
Minion of Tevesh Szat
Mountain Titan
Mudslide
Musician
Mystic Might
Polar Kraken
Reality Twist
River Delta
Ritual of Subdual
Skeleton Ship
Snowblind
Soldevi Golem
Spoils of Evil
Spoils of War
Storm Spirit
Timberline Ridge
Trailblazer
Veldt
Winter's Chill

Homelands
An-Zerrin Ruins
Anaba Ancestor
Anaba Spirit Crafter
Apocalypse Chime
Autumn Willow
Aysen Crusader
Aysen Highway
Baki's Curse
Baron Sengir
Beast Walkers
Black Carriage
Chain Stasis
Daughter of Autumn
Didgeridoo
Dwarven Pony
Dwarven Sea Clan
Faerie Noble
Grandmother Sengir
Hazduhr the Abbot
Heart Wolf
Koskun Falls
Leeches
Mammoth Harness
Marjhan
Mystic Decree
Narwhal
Reveka, Wizard Savant
Rysorian Badger
Serra Aviary
Soraya the Falconer
Timmerian Fiends
Veldrane of Sengir
Wall of Kelp
Willow Priestess
Winter Sky

Alliances
Ashnod's Cylix
Balduvian Trading Post
Chaos Harlequin
Dystopia
Fatal Lore
Floodwater Dam
Gargantuan Gorilla
Gustha's Scepter
Heart of Yavimaya
Helm of Obedience
Ivory Gargoyle
Kaysa
Keeper of Tresserhorn
Kjeldoran Outpost
Krovikan Horror
Lake of the Dead
Lodestone Bauble
Lord of Tresserhorn
Misfortune
Nature's Wrath
Omen of Fire
Phantasmal Sphere
Phelddagrif
Phyrexian Devourer
Phyrexian Portal
Ritual of the Machine
Rogue Skycaptain
Royal Decree
Sheltered Valley
Soldevi Digger
Soldevi Excavations
Splintering Wind
Sustaining Spirit
Sworn Defender
Thawing Glaciers
Thought Lash
Tidal Control
Tornado
Varchild's War-Riders
Wandering Mage
Winter's Night

Mirage
Acidic Dagger
Afiya Grove
Amulet of Unmaking
Asmira, Holy Avenger
Auspicious Ancestor
Barreling Attack
Bazaar of Wonders
Benthic Djinn
Bone Mask
Brushwagg
Cadaverous Bloom
Canopy Dragon
Carrion
Catacomb Dragon
Chaosphere
Circle of Despair
Cycle of Life
Discordant Spirit
Divine Retribution
Emberwilde Caliph
Emberwilde Djinn
Energy Bolt
Energy Vortex
Forsaken Wastes
Frenetic Efreet
Grim Feast
Hakim, Loreweaver
Hall of Gemstone
Harbinger of Night
Hivis of the Scale
Jabari's Influence
Jungle Patrol
Kukemssa Pirates
Leering Gargoyle
Lion's Eye Diamond
Lure of Prey
Malignant Growth
Mangara's Tome
Mindbender Spores
Misers' Cage
Mist Dragon
Natural Balance
Null Chamber
Paupers' Cage
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Phyrexian Purge
Phyrexian Tribute
Political Trickery
Preferred Selection
Prismatic Lace
Purgatory
Purraj of Urborg
Rashida Scalebane
Razor Pendulum
Reflect Damage
Reparations
Rock Basilisk
Sawback Manticore
Seeds of Innocence
Shallow Grave
Shauku, Endbringer
Shimmer
Sidar Jabari
Soul Echo
Spectral Guardian
Spirit of the Night
Subterranean Spirit
Tainted Specter
Taniwha
Teeka's Dragon
Teferi's Imp
Teferi's Isle
Telim'Tor
Telim'Tor's Edict
Tombstone Stairwell
Torrent of Lava
Unfulfilled Desires
Ventifact Bottle
Warping Wurm
Wellspring
Yare
Zirilan of the Claw
Zuberi, Golden Feather

Visions
Aku Djinn
Anvil of Bogardan
Bogardan Phoenix
Breathstealer's Crypt
Chronatog
City of Solitude
Corrosion
Diamond Kaleidoscope
Elkin Lair
Equipoise
Eye of Singularity
Femeref Enchantress
Firestorm Hellkite
Flooded Shoreline
Forbidden Ritual
Griffin Canyon
Guiding Spirit
Kaervek's Spite
Katabatic Winds
Kookus
Lichenthrope
Lightning Cloud
Ogre Enforcer
Phyrexian Marauder
Pillar Tombs of Aku
Pygmy Hippo
Quirion Druid
Rainbow Efreet
Retribution of the Meek
Righteous War
Sands of Time
Squandered Resources
Suleiman's Legacy
Teferi's Realm
Three Wishes
Tithe
Triangle of War
Undiscovered Paradise
Viashivan Dragon
Zhalfirin Crusader

Weatherlight
Abeyance
Aboroth
Ancestral Knowledge
Avizoa
Bone Dancer
Bosium Strip
Bubble Matrix
Debt of Loyalty
Dwarven Thaumaturgist
Ertai's Familiar
Firestorm
Fungus Elemental
Gallowbraid
Goblin Bomb
Heart of Bogardan
Heat Stroke
Infernal Tribute
Inner Sanctum
Liege of the Hollows
Lotus Vale
Mana Web
Maraxus of Keld
Morinfen
Mwonvuli Ooze
Null Rod
Paradigm Shift
Peacekeeper
Pendrell Mists
Psychic Vortex
Scorched Ruins
Thran Tome
Tolarian Entrancer
Tolarian Serpent
Urborg Justice
Urborg Stalker
Wave of Terror
Well of Knowledge
Winding Canyons
Xanthic Statue

Tempest
Aluren
Apocalypse
Avenging Angel
Commander Greven il-Vec
Corpse Dance
Cursed Scroll
Earthcraft
Eladamri, Lord of Leaves
Escaped Shapeshifter
Humility
Intuition
Meditate
Orim, Samite Healer
Recycle
Sarcomancy
Selenia, Dark Angel

Stronghold
Crovax the Cursed
Dream Halls
Mox Diamond
Silver Wyvern
Sliver Queen
Volrath's Shapeshifter
Volrath's Stronghold

Exodus
City of Traitors
Dominating Licid
Ertai, Wizard Adept
Exalted Dragon
Hatred
Mind Over Matter
Oath of Ghouls
Recurring Nightmare
Survival of the Fittest

Urza's Saga
Argothian Wurm
Barrin, Master Wizard
Citanul Centaurs
Gaea's Cradle
Gilded Drake
Great Whale
Herald of Serra
Karn, Silver Golem
Lifeline
Lightning Dragon
Morphling
Opal Archangel
Serra's Sanctum
Tolarian Academy
Temporal Aperture
Time Spiral
Yawgmoth's Will
Zephid

Urza's Legacy
Deranged Hermit
Grim Monolith
Memory Jar
Multani, Maro-Sorcerer
Palinchron
Radiant, Archangel
Ring of Gix
Second Chance
Weatherseed Treefolk

Urza's Destiny
Academy Rector
Carnival of Souls
Covetous Dragon
Donate
Masticore
Metalworker
Opalescence
Phyrexian Negator
Powder Keg
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Replenish
Treachery
Yavimaya Hollow
Yawgmoth's Bargain

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V/R

HK

Hazezon Tamar - Manland theme
Seshiro the Anointed - Snake Tribal
Jedit Ojanen of Efrava - Cat and Warrior Dual Tribal
Doran, the Seige Tower - Wall Tribal
Progenitus - Hydra themed Proliferate Deck
Karona, the False God - Backstabbing Hug


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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-04 11:28 pm 

Joined: 2008-Aug-08 6:34 am
Age: Elder Dragon
Location: Rouen, France
So here's my list:

Elesh Norn
Cyclonic Rift
Ixidron
Victimize
Mikaeus the Unhallowed
Warp World
Skyshroud Claim
Kaervek
Pernicious Deed
Lord of Extinction
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Mimic Vat
Lurking Predators
Dack Fayden
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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-05 1:56 am 
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zimagic wrote:


FTFY

Not very balanced color-wise and some of those have had an awful lot of reprints already as well; but not a bad list.

Here are some of my nominees:

Gift of Estates
Library of Lat-Nam
Overwhelming Forces
Hecatomb
Warrior's Oath
Three Visits
Crown of the Ages
Baton of Morale
Elemental Augury

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Karona, the False God - Backstabbing Hug


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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-05 5:58 am 

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I feel like Demonic Tutor deserves a commander reprint.

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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-05 6:39 pm 
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Doubling Season. It's legendary.

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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-05 7:45 pm 

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Of course! I was so caught up in the Green spell being Skyshroud Claim that I didn't even think about it.

I've already revised my list, but I just can't decide on artifact or land. If I stick to the criteria, I can't include the artifacts I want to so I went with Solemn Sim. Is Mana Crypt too obscure for a product like this?

Same with Land: I would have loved to add some of the cards from FTV Lands or about 20 from the reserved list. After that it's either Wasteland or Cabal Coffers, neither of which really appealed.

DT is also a good call. I'm personally not a fan of open-ended tutors in Commander but I can see the appeal.

Viperion wrote:
The "Well, Duh" pick:
Command Tower

The "Auto-include" picks:
Deadeye Navigator
Tooth and Nail


Command Tower was in Arsenal as a foil and in every single commander deck since. Is that not too "common" for a FTV printing?

Your Auto-includes are very high on a lot of people's "Groan" lists. You sure you don't want to put Craterhoof in there? :wink:

Actually, each colour and card type has issues for the most iconic.

White is either removal or one of the big legends. Pretty much everything else is obscure or Mother of Runes.

Blue has a huge amount of options, but the top contender is probably Rift which is pretty controversial.

Black: I want another Living Death, thought seriously about Grave Pact, went with Mikaeus and added Victimize because I love it. Would probably change that to Necromancy & DT now. Damnation?

Red: What's Iconic in Red? Goblins? Dragons? Lightning Bolt? I went with what I liked but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

Green: Skyshroud Claim & Doubling Season. Lurking predators was a fill in at enchantment.

Colourless: Probably one of the legendary Eldrazi, maybe All is Dust if White doesn't provide the boardwipe.

Gold: I went with Boom Tube, one of the original fatties, but I'd audible to one of the Elder Dragons now. Not Bolas. Chromium would be cool.

Artifact: Probably should be Sol Ring but, excluding that, it's about 15 other artifacts and not everyone else is as in love with Cloudstone Curio as I am. Ensnaring Bridge would be cool, but maybe not iconic.

Land: I really want it to be Gaea's Cradle or Serra's Sanctum but maybe Wasteland or Coffers would fit here. Or Command Tower. (*coughs* boring *coughs*)

Enchantment : Pernicous Deed.

Planeswalker : I wanted flip-Jace but that would be unfeasable logistically, so I went with one I find most effective: Dack Fayden There's none that really stand out to me apart from him. I have a PW deck and he's almost the only 'walker I run outside that deck in all the decks I play (Swamp Liliana in Mono-B, but she's unlikely to make the cut here.)

Here's my edited cut:

Elesh Norn
Cyclonic Rift
Necromancy
Demonic Tutor
Skyshroud Claim
Chromium
Pernicious Deed
All is Dust
Doubling Season
Dack Fayden
Command Tower

A red Card
A gold card with Red
A blue Card
An Artifact

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Oblivion Stone would be nice for colorless.

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Wouldn't this be more likely to be "Commander's Arsenal 2" ?

FTVs are named with a theme. FTV Commander would probably never exist as anything but 15 legends (commanders)


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Not Deadeye Navigator... I'm having enough trouble as it is getting a hold of every possible copy for a massive bonfire.

1. Land Tax (could use a new printing and it's a very useful mana fixer)
2. Cyclonic Rift
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Chaos Warp
5. Birds of Paradise
6. Merciless Eviction
7. Mirari's Wake
8. Detention Sphere
9. Mystic Snake
10. Command Tower
11. Sol Ring
12. Vedalken Orrery
13. Solemn Simulacrum
14. Sakura-Tribe Elder
15. Wrath of God

Just off the top of my head, but there isn't much value in those.


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I would much rather see another commander's arsenal but such that it was a deckbuilding toolkit. Something like 100 cards pulled from a pool of commander staples, deck box, 100 sleeves, 2 d10 percentile dice for life totals.

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Pretty much every list I came up with isn't viable. Half the old gold cards I want reprinted are on the reserve list. I can't really express my artistic tastes without going completely off rails, so a list of legends with bad art is out and kinda undercuts the uniqueness of FTV (and Oona is on a FTV list). A land list for 5 color decks isn't worth posting.

FTV isn't going to give me the things I want.


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 Post subject: Re: Thought Exercise: FTV Commander
AgePosted: 2017-Jul-06 11:42 am 

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Ok...
1. Land Tax
2. Path to Exile
3. Cryptic Command
4. Future Sight
5. Demonic Tutor
6. Phyrexian Arena
7. Chaos Warp
8. Blasphemous Act
9. Doubling Season
10. Mana Reflection
11. Oblivion Stone
12. Gauntlet of Power
13. Vindicate
14. Eladamri's Call
15. Fire's of Yavimaya

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